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inquiry into bengahzi this week wants to know what petraeus learned on a secret trip to debrief the cia station chief there shortly before he resigned. >> we have asked to see the trip report. one person said he has read it, then we try to get it and they tell us it hasn't been done. that's unacceptable. we're entitled to this trip report. if we have to go to the floor of the senate on a subpoena, we will do that. >> reporter: feinstein and michael rogers also want to know why the president didn't learn about the fbi investigation until last thursday and why they didn't learn until a day later, the day petraeus resigned. but eric canter learned tof it two weeks earlier. >>> washington lawmakers will be returning to the capitol this morning and will be buzzing about the petraeus and allen investigations. but they're also going to be faced with a much larger problem. we're talking about the trillion dollar fiscal cliff, which if not dealt with before the end of the year will impact everyone in america. so today president obama will be meeting with key labor and progressive leaders at the
inquiry into bengahzi this week wants to know what petraeus learned on a secret trip to debrief the cia station chief there shortly before he resigned. >> we have asked to see the trip report. one person said he has read it, then we try to get it and they tell us it hasn't been done. that's unacceptable. we're entitled to this trip report. if we have to go to the floor of the senate on a subpoena, we will do that. >> reporter: feinstein and michael rogers also want to know why the...
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any e-mail was not his cia e-mail. it was not like the former director who got busted taking home classified information on his home laptop. so this was not a national security matter. and it was not a criminal matter. so why was this brought up to the director of national intelligence by the fbi. we do not know. what we do know is once james clapper, head of the national intelligence, found out about the affair on election day, he urged david petraeus to resign. the following day, wednesday, mr. clapper reportedly notified staff at the white house and the following day, thursday, general petraeus sat down with president obama directly. the president did not accept his resignation initially that day. he didn't accept it until the following day, until friday. that's when it all became public. here's another question, though. why did the fbi investigation start here in the first place? what we're told about why it started is a woman who was not having an affair, she received e-mails that she perceived as threatening and
any e-mail was not his cia e-mail. it was not like the former director who got busted taking home classified information on his home laptop. so this was not a national security matter. and it was not a criminal matter. so why was this brought up to the director of national intelligence by the fbi. we do not know. what we do know is once james clapper, head of the national intelligence, found out about the affair on election day, he urged david petraeus to resign. the following day, wednesday,...
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ambassador and close friend simply told the truth as she was permitted to tell it, what the cia gave her to say and no more. for that he charges susan rice, in the words of the new york post, being fried. political fight fans on the tabloids relish this extreme combat what should be a good person's judgment? that's my question tonight. is susan rice now a surrogate for the president, someone to take the punishment when others above her pay grade should be answering the questions, or is she accountable for going on national television knowing she can't tell the whole truth because it's classified? let's begin with senator susan collins, republican of maine. i guess it's the toughest question in the world, senator, and that is, do you believe that susan rice, the u.n. ambassador, knowingly covered up a breach of national security? >> well, let me say this, chris, our purpose is to understand the security failure in benghazi. what the administration told the american public about it. and how we can learn lessons to keep our personnel safer in the future. so that's my interest and goal i
ambassador and close friend simply told the truth as she was permitted to tell it, what the cia gave her to say and no more. for that he charges susan rice, in the words of the new york post, being fried. political fight fans on the tabloids relish this extreme combat what should be a good person's judgment? that's my question tonight. is susan rice now a surrogate for the president, someone to take the punishment when others above her pay grade should be answering the questions, or is she...
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she's in the part of the cia. she was out doing what they do on sunday talk shows which is talking about a whole range of subjects. i suspect that if you asked john mccain in an honest moment about whether he was truly expert in all the things he talks about -- and his many sunday talk show appearances, he would say occasionally he ventured into territory he wasn't personally responsible for and that's where you get into the question of why it's not just me, it's the op-ed board, the editorial board of the "washington post" that said this is bizarre. why are they pursuing susan rice like this? there are troubling questions about these senators and their witch hunt that they have engaged in. >> david, john mccain said i am upset by answers that were given and answers that were not given. he's just upset generally about everything that happened. i will ask, is this the best thing the republicans have going for them? we have polling from cnn/orc that asks about a benghazi cover-up. 42% of respondents believe there wa
she's in the part of the cia. she was out doing what they do on sunday talk shows which is talking about a whole range of subjects. i suspect that if you asked john mccain in an honest moment about whether he was truly expert in all the things he talks about -- and his many sunday talk show appearances, he would say occasionally he ventured into territory he wasn't personally responsible for and that's where you get into the question of why it's not just me, it's the op-ed board, the editorial...
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former cia director david petraeus is expected to testify. you see some of the tone and tenor of what will perhaps happen behind closed doors tomorrow. i'm tamron hall. you can watch "news nation" every day 2:00 p.m. eastern time. "the cycle" is up next. into their work, their name on the door, and their heart into their community. small business saturday is a day to show our support. a day to shop at stores owned by our friends and neighbors. and do our part for the businesses that do so much for us. on november 24th, let's get out and shop small. challenge the need for such heavy measures with olay. regenerist micro-sculpting serum for firmer skin in 5 days. pretty heavy lifting for such a lightweight. [ female announcer ] olay regenerist. i just finished a bowl of your new light chicken pot pie soup and it's so rich and creamy... is it really 100 calories? let me put you on webcan... ...lean roasted chicken... and a creamy broth mmm i can still see you. [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. >>> i'm krystal ball and you'r
former cia director david petraeus is expected to testify. you see some of the tone and tenor of what will perhaps happen behind closed doors tomorrow. i'm tamron hall. you can watch "news nation" every day 2:00 p.m. eastern time. "the cycle" is up next. into their work, their name on the door, and their heart into their community. small business saturday is a day to show our support. a day to shop at stores owned by our friends and neighbors. and do our part for the...
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i found him to be very credible and forthcoming and was doing a good job at cia. it's a big loss for the agency and country that he has left but given the circumstances, unfortunately, i don't see there was any other alternative. >> how concerned are you that the fbi didn't seem to tell anyone about this investigation in what many in congress have suggested was not a timely manner? >> right, i'm very concerned about that and i spoke about that yesterday. with some of the staff who were getting briefed up on what was going to be coming in terms of the hearings and i asked the question, you know, when do they have an obligation to report and, of course, the answer is in a timely manner and as i understand it, the fbi did not inform either the chairman or the ranking member of either the house or senate intelligence committee or the full committees in a timely manner so that's something where it has to be addressed not only in this situation but other areas that involve sensitive intelligence issues or investigations. they need to be compliant with the law. >> congre
i found him to be very credible and forthcoming and was doing a good job at cia. it's a big loss for the agency and country that he has left but given the circumstances, unfortunately, i don't see there was any other alternative. >> how concerned are you that the fbi didn't seem to tell anyone about this investigation in what many in congress have suggested was not a timely manner? >> right, i'm very concerned about that and i spoke about that yesterday. with some of the staff who...
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they've now toppled the cia director. one thing we should remember in this discussion and, you know, you're reading that opinion piece before, the reason david petraeus doesn't have a job as cia director because david petraeus decided to resign. had he decided to -- attempt to weather the storm i'm not sure whether he would have been able to or not. this is not a situation where he was fired from his job. he offered his resignation and it was accepted a day later. so this is something he decided he needed to do. i think that's something to keep in mind as this goes forward. >> was it really david petraeus or his evil twin? i'm just kidding. i'm kidding. for the record -- >> find out next year. >> as far as i know does not have an evil twin. thank you. >> does he have a good one? >> thank you to politico's jonathan allen. >> take care, alex. >> after the break, president obama kicks off a new push for a budget deal, but not without applying a few lessons from the past. last december he used a news conference to promote the
they've now toppled the cia director. one thing we should remember in this discussion and, you know, you're reading that opinion piece before, the reason david petraeus doesn't have a job as cia director because david petraeus decided to resign. had he decided to -- attempt to weather the storm i'm not sure whether he would have been able to or not. this is not a situation where he was fired from his job. he offered his resignation and it was accepted a day later. so this is something he...
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mike morel at her side because petraeus, the former cia director can't be there. jonathan, the one thing that the three of these senators really tried to impart was the fact susan rice admitted she was wrong during the time she gave the interviews that she was wrong. and she went into this meeting and stated being wrong. that's a big admission. >> that is -- well, that is a
mike morel at her side because petraeus, the former cia director can't be there. jonathan, the one thing that the three of these senators really tried to impart was the fact susan rice admitted she was wrong during the time she gave the interviews that she was wrong. and she went into this meeting and stated being wrong. that's a big admission. >> that is -- well, that is a
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under the new system the director of the cia reports to clapper. clapper is his boss, and they thought that clapper should know. he controls the security clearances. let him make the decision about whether it was proper to keep david petraeus on the job. obviously clapper felt it wasn't and told petraeus he ought to resign. >> i guess it's one of those cases once people know about it, the catch-22 is you have to do something about it or else you're part of the cover-up. maybe that's the way they look at it. pete williams, as always, thank you, sir. >> that's right. >> do you have a thought? >> i was going to say one other thing, by certainly mid to late october petraeus knows he's under investigation. he knows that the fbi knows about this. but he doesn't decide to go and tell the white house and offer to resign until clapper tells him to do so. >> more information. thank you so much, pete, for that reporting. more on the politics of the petraeus scandal, if you will. eugene robinson is an associate editor and columnist for "the washington post." a
under the new system the director of the cia reports to clapper. clapper is his boss, and they thought that clapper should know. he controls the security clearances. let him make the decision about whether it was proper to keep david petraeus on the job. obviously clapper felt it wasn't and told petraeus he ought to resign. >> i guess it's one of those cases once people know about it, the catch-22 is you have to do something about it or else you're part of the cover-up. maybe that's the...
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for example the intelligence committee is meeting focusing on the cia commponent. questions raised for armed services including during a seven-hour attack why can't our military respond to help them there? homeland security has jurisdiction. it's important that we have a full investigation that we not have a piecemeal approach. we get a full accounting of what occurred, take the best recommendations make sure it doesn't happen again and learn lessons from it. that's why we've called for the establishment of a select committee it would be bipartisan, in fact the democrats are in charge of the senate so it would be a component of the members of the committees and obviously the democrats would be in charge of the committee but we have a process that the american people can have confidence in that we've gotten all of the information. >> you were with senators mccain and graham, i believe, yesterday, when they sort of drew a line in the sand about susan rice and the president reacted very angrily to that. shouldn't the president have his prerogatives about whom he nomin
for example the intelligence committee is meeting focusing on the cia commponent. questions raised for armed services including during a seven-hour attack why can't our military respond to help them there? homeland security has jurisdiction. it's important that we have a full investigation that we not have a piecemeal approach. we get a full accounting of what occurred, take the best recommendations make sure it doesn't happen again and learn lessons from it. that's why we've called for the...
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that was before he was director of cia. come in as director, generally speaking you're still a politician. it's hard to bring them back. there is a political cost to it. in fact, there's been some other names that are out there that maybe more likely than what we've seen from the president at this point. >> let's talk act those other possible names, the replacements. we haven't heard a lot from house intelligence committee chairman mike rogers recently, the way he's gone after ambassador susan rice over the benghazi talking points, obviously. is he angling for this job, and is that a serious way to look like the best replacement? >> yeah, i think it is. i think that's the angle that will probably happen. the downside to this -- and if we're going to look at this politically speaking, the one thing i'm always concerned about is the democrats have regularly been almost -- have a sore spot about being seen as weak on national security issues. and the problem with consistently bringing in, quote, unquote, republicans on this is
that was before he was director of cia. come in as director, generally speaking you're still a politician. it's hard to bring them back. there is a political cost to it. in fact, there's been some other names that are out there that maybe more likely than what we've seen from the president at this point. >> let's talk act those other possible names, the replacements. we haven't heard a lot from house intelligence committee chairman mike rogers recently, the way he's gone after ambassador...
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she said this because that's what the cia believed. that's what the cia told her with an intelligence briefing given to her that very day. yet john mccain and other republicans have launched a campaign to smear her and stop her from possibly becoming secretary of state. >> we will do whatever is necessary to block the nomination that's within our power as far as susan rice is concerned. >> i don't trust her. the reason i don't trust her is because i think she knew better and if she didn't know better she shouldn't be the voice of america. i don't think she deserves to be promoted. >> how could we place our trust in her? >> the question is how can the american people put their trust in lawmakers like these? the republicans are desperate to create a blame game here. so desperate they are actually invoking some of the great gop scandals of the past. >> somebody the other day said to me, this is as bad as water gate. nobody died in watergate. >> this is an administration that's now practicing serial deception. it's like watergate. >> the r
she said this because that's what the cia believed. that's what the cia told her with an intelligence briefing given to her that very day. yet john mccain and other republicans have launched a campaign to smear her and stop her from possibly becoming secretary of state. >> we will do whatever is necessary to block the nomination that's within our power as far as susan rice is concerned. >> i don't trust her. the reason i don't trust her is because i think she knew better and if she...
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well, brand new information on cia's role in the benghazi terror attacks. details next. >>> plus, oprah's favorite things, and you might even be able to afford a few of them. you're watching "first look" on msnbc. if you think running a restaurant is hard, try running four. fortunately we've got ink. it gives us 5x the rewards on our internet, phone charges and cable, plus at office supply stores. rewards we put right back into our business. this is the only thing we've ever wanted to do and ink helps us do it. make your mark with ink from chase. flavor, meet food. it's time for swanson flavor boost. concentrated broth in easy to use packets. mix it into skillet dishes, for an instant dose of... hell-o! [ female announcer ] get recipes at flavorboost.com. ♪ [ female announcer ] pop in a whole new kind of clean. with tide pods. a powerful three-in-one detergent that cleans. brightens. and fights stains just one removes more stains than the 6 next leading pacs combined pop in. stand out. a short word that's a tall order. up your game. up the ante. and if yo
well, brand new information on cia's role in the benghazi terror attacks. details next. >>> plus, oprah's favorite things, and you might even be able to afford a few of them. you're watching "first look" on msnbc. if you think running a restaurant is hard, try running four. fortunately we've got ink. it gives us 5x the rewards on our internet, phone charges and cable, plus at office supply stores. rewards we put right back into our business. this is the only thing we've ever...
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points that are classified and then a litter iteration that are unclassified, do you go back to the cia and say you guys are contradicting yourself? >> maybe it's the intelligence community here, and there are reasons why you would want to obscure the fact that we would know who the terrorists were, if there was -- >> which is petraeus' argument. >> i don't necessarily buy that either. but the point being at the time, the intelligence community knew this was a terrorist attack with groups that had links to al qaeda. what susan rice said, because the unclassified version was very different, she was -- she delivered that information that was not -- >> so she could pay the price? >> it's not for me to talk for republicans, but that's the argument. >> two points about that. first, it isn't that the intelligence community knew that was their best advice at that moment. and things always change and any other crisis that hadn't happened in the middle of an election. and, this is the key thing, chris, an election which the republicans were trying very hard to grab any foothold they can they cou
points that are classified and then a litter iteration that are unclassified, do you go back to the cia and say you guys are contradicting yourself? >> maybe it's the intelligence community here, and there are reasons why you would want to obscure the fact that we would know who the terrorists were, if there was -- >> which is petraeus' argument. >> i don't necessarily buy that either. but the point being at the time, the intelligence community knew this was a terrorist attack...
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the cia is now investigating whether he did anything wrong professionally. the fbi concluded it was a personal matter. >> we made the determination as we were going through the matter that there was not a threat to national security. >> reporter: petraeus testifies today on the deadly attack that killed four americans in benghazi. thursday lawmakers saw realtime video of that attack and got in a heated shouting match over whether united nations ambassador susan rice intentionally misled the public when she said it was spontaneous. >> this administration include the president himself has intentionally misinformed and lied to the american people in the aftermath of this tragedy. >> if you want to know who is responsible in this town, buy yourself a mirror. >> reporter: petraeus could shed some light on that today. today's hearing is closed. the committees hope to have open public hearings at a later dade. lynn? >> tracie, thanks so much. now a check of the weather with bill karins. he's tracking a nice weekend for you all. >> like my vacation week without taki
the cia is now investigating whether he did anything wrong professionally. the fbi concluded it was a personal matter. >> we made the determination as we were going through the matter that there was not a threat to national security. >> reporter: petraeus testifies today on the deadly attack that killed four americans in benghazi. thursday lawmakers saw realtime video of that attack and got in a heated shouting match over whether united nations ambassador susan rice intentionally...
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people should know that the white house and the cia write the policy that was supposed to endure for drone target, china developed their own military drones that they unveiled this week as a military air show. it's not just america and israel anymore. >> inevitable. heather hole bert. >> people should know as we go back to the fiscal cliff/curve discussions, pentagon contractors, have enough money to ride them out for six months unlike military families, regular american families, folks who need unemployment insurance. people should also know that if the washington wizards do not break their losing streak this week, my 8-year-old is coming down to start at power forward. >> the memphis are doing well. you should know at home that the staff in the makeup room here saturday and sunday mornings do an incredible job. i stupidly, not intentionally omitted them from my thanks. i wanted to give them a special shoutout. they make me look presentable. it's no small feat. thank you to you folks in the makeup room. steve cohen, come back any time. katrina from the nation magazine. eli lake and
people should know that the white house and the cia write the policy that was supposed to endure for drone target, china developed their own military drones that they unveiled this week as a military air show. it's not just america and israel anymore. >> inevitable. heather hole bert. >> people should know as we go back to the fiscal cliff/curve discussions, pentagon contractors, have enough money to ride them out for six months unlike military families, regular american families,...
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he was not an insider from the cia and the cia is a bit of an old fashioned club. there was talk -- one person at the cia and one person formerly at the cia put it to me this way. the cia would have had to ask the fbi to look into e-mails that were suspicious. the cia handles its own security and the fbi would have had to be brought into examine somebody suspiciously trying to pry into the director's account which does not suggest a real warmth within the organization. >> this is an incredible resignation with incredible timing. i have a feeling as we get more detail it's going to become an even more important story. richard engel, thank you. i feel a feeling we'll be talking about this shortly. >>> who's in charge of the republican party now? simple question with a difficult answer. that's coming up. >>> beyond the first appearance of the president since the election and the shocking surprise resignation of general >>> beyond the first appearance of the president since the election and the shocking surprise resignation of general petraeus as head of the cia, there
he was not an insider from the cia and the cia is a bit of an old fashioned club. there was talk -- one person at the cia and one person formerly at the cia put it to me this way. the cia would have had to ask the fbi to look into e-mails that were suspicious. the cia handles its own security and the fbi would have had to be brought into examine somebody suspiciously trying to pry into the director's account which does not suggest a real warmth within the organization. >> this is an...
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a cia director, a u.s. military commander, a social liaison, a writer and wait for it, a shirtless fbi agent. we will try to unravel the real-life tragic comedy that is the david petraeus sex scandal. president obama takes on the role of salesman in chief. panelists steve kornacki, jonathan capehart, michael eric dyson and ashley parker weigh in. new york magazine's benjamin wallace wells explained why mitt romney america could be releg e relegated to death history. starts in a mere 180 seconds. [ ] raise the roof! ah? raise the roof! [ male announcer ] it's our biggest toy rollback of the year. find hundreds of rollbacks on the season's hottest toys in stores now, from america's gift headquarters, walmart. something this delicious could only come from nature. new nectresse. the 100% natural no-calorie sweetener made from the goodness of fruit. new nectresse. sweetness naturally. [ male announcer ] it's that time of year again. medicare open enrollment. time to compare plans and costs. you don't have to mak
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. >> she revealed that in 1995 the cia was told about a planes as weapons plot called ojinka. >> the primary objective was to blow up 11 airliners over the pacific. in the alternative, several planes were to be hijacked and flown into civilian targets in d wereited states. cia headquarrs trade center, the sears tower, and the white house. >> then there was the phoenix september 11th. >> an fbi agent in phoenix wrote an electronic communication identifying his concern that al qaeda associates and affilia co flight lessons. he recommended a number of things in his memos, sent it to fbi headquarters. >> i still look at that memo as the most important memo written in fbi history. >> it basically went to the bottom of the pile, nothing was done with it. there were numerous missed opportunities that happened that were not taken advantage of that were dots that were not put together. >> over 3,000 other human beings -- >> the families demanded a full federal investigation. >> how could this have happened? >> they wanted a 9/11 commission. >> our call for an indepen do with politics. it has
. >> she revealed that in 1995 the cia was told about a planes as weapons plot called ojinka. >> the primary objective was to blow up 11 airliners over the pacific. in the alternative, several planes were to be hijacked and flown into civilian targets in d wereited states. cia headquarrs trade center, the sears tower, and the white house. >> then there was the phoenix september 11th. >> an fbi agent in phoenix wrote an electronic communication identifying his concern...
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cia lobbying to expand the drone fleet. officials say the proposal by david petraeus would bolster the strikes in pakistan and yemen. the cia is shifting in quite a remarkable way. i think it's undercovered. how important do you think this move to a para military is for the agency and the future? >> i mean it's extremely important. petraeus' affair, for all the privacy issues make people talk about the war in afghanistan and also what's happening with the cia. it didn't start with petraeus. the military started a lot of years ago. the 9/11 commission report came out in 2004 saying the cia needed to get their act together and conduct paramilitary operations in a way they haven't done before. >> the history of the agencies involved in these tends to be between the extremes between collecting and analyzing intelligence and operations. it seems like you are always asking the cia to do several impossible things. one is the untraceable operations that max mally impact the foreign policy or you are asking them to predict the futur
cia lobbying to expand the drone fleet. officials say the proposal by david petraeus would bolster the strikes in pakistan and yemen. the cia is shifting in quite a remarkable way. i think it's undercovered. how important do you think this move to a para military is for the agency and the future? >> i mean it's extremely important. petraeus' affair, for all the privacy issues make people talk about the war in afghanistan and also what's happening with the cia. it didn't start with...
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and the cia director. and you were never informed. >> not only that, but an fbi agent, apparently, took it upon himself to go to members of the house and tell them. and this was outside of the general line of information. and that's deeply disturbing. so i will take a look at that to too. >> let my circle back to that. the fbi agent who had initially been contacted by this woman who was a friend of the petraeus' family, jill kelly in tampa, this fbi agent who knew her, so she went to him as far as our reporting is concerned, she went to him and asked for help. she was getting e-mails that were of concern to her, harassing or threatening e-mails. this is jill kelly, whose husband and the petraeuses has been friends for more than five years -- >> well, this is all news to me. see, we were not told this. this is the first time i've learned of this. so that makes me think, how many other things are there, too? >> well, and from what our reporting, from my colleagues, pete williams, michael isikoff and i from o
and the cia director. and you were never informed. >> not only that, but an fbi agent, apparently, took it upon himself to go to members of the house and tell them. and this was outside of the general line of information. and that's deeply disturbing. so i will take a look at that to too. >> let my circle back to that. the fbi agent who had initially been contacted by this woman who was a friend of the petraeus' family, jill kelly in tampa, this fbi agent who knew her, so she went...
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. >> i think he took the right step, and i think it's important when you're director of the cia with all the challenges that face you, and have -- that personal integrity comes first and foremost. >> panetta a former cia director and the washington shuffle with panetta and clinton saying they want out of the second term. will john kerry now go to the pentagon? can susan rice be confirmed as secretary of state? and will nancy pelosi run for leader again? and what a welcome to washington the new class of congress arriving just in time for a classic d.c. scandal. and a different fall from grace, jon stewart, crowns himself the worst journalist in the world. >> anyone out there who thought i may have actual journalists instincts i give you a snippet of my interview. >> he loves serving, to be in the arena. i thought i was going to test him, he tested me, crushed his pelvis. he wanted to help me with the project. he can turn water into bottled water. >> the whole time i was staring at how defined her arms were. [ inaudible ]. i am the worst jurmist in the world. for god's sake the title o
. >> i think he took the right step, and i think it's important when you're director of the cia with all the challenges that face you, and have -- that personal integrity comes first and foremost. >> panetta a former cia director and the washington shuffle with panetta and clinton saying they want out of the second term. will john kerry now go to the pentagon? can susan rice be confirmed as secretary of state? and will nancy pelosi run for leader again? and what a welcome to...
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we've been hearing mark halperin, reading straight from the cia. we find out this just isn't true, that immediate ly this wa an al qaeda attack, right? >> it's still kind of confusing -- >> by the way, i'm basing that on "the new york times" reports and everything i read through the weekend. >> they didn't want to say everything they knew in public because they didn't want the terrorists to know the u.s. government was on to them. >> i heard that. seriously, al qaeda. they're like, oh, we couldn't say it was al qaeda because that might expose some of our assets on the ground. andrea mitchell, the term al qaeda if there's a terror attack and you say al qaeda, that's going to he can pose our assets on the ground? as my professor said, that does not pass the straight face test. >> reporter: or the smell test. i think the problem here is what this has exposed is the bureaucracy of the intelligence community. the fact that the intelligence community waters down what can be said in a declassified setting and that susan rice, the criticism is that she too
we've been hearing mark halperin, reading straight from the cia. we find out this just isn't true, that immediate ly this wa an al qaeda attack, right? >> it's still kind of confusing -- >> by the way, i'm basing that on "the new york times" reports and everything i read through the weekend. >> they didn't want to say everything they knew in public because they didn't want the terrorists to know the u.s. government was on to them. >> i heard that. seriously, al...
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he cleared it up to the extent of saying the cia did know it was a terrorist attack. knew that early on and the question is why that didn't make it to the final talking points. somebody took it out. the white house is saying it wasn't them. so who did weigh in on the question. i would agree with steve's point. i think from a republican's point of view this was not litigated effectively during the campaign. that mitt romney tried to bring it up in a second debate and he lost his point on a technicality and never went back to it. we thought he would bring it up in a third debate, the foreign policy debate there would be more discussion and he would have refined his attack on the president. instead he dropped it entirely. from the point of view from his colleagues, he really didn't press the president he way he should have on this point during the campaign. >> i want to get to mention of the fiscal cliff issue. we have new comments from nancy pelosi on the fiscal cliff today. let's listen to that. >> would you accept a deal that does not include tax rate increases for th
he cleared it up to the extent of saying the cia did know it was a terrorist attack. knew that early on and the question is why that didn't make it to the final talking points. somebody took it out. the white house is saying it wasn't them. so who did weigh in on the question. i would agree with steve's point. i think from a republican's point of view this was not litigated effectively during the campaign. that mitt romney tried to bring it up in a second debate and he lost his point on a...
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the administration was given an assessment by the cia. susan rice went to the public and gave that to the public. when that information changed, the new information was given to the public. so i am not sure what they're looking for because i don't think there is anything beyond that. >> just to be clear, i'm not saying there's necessarily a conspiracy. what i'm saying is there was a lack of clarity. if the president was indeed clear that first day in saying that this was a terrorist act which by the way i don't think he was that clear, he was speaking generally, then why would susan rice a few days later not refer to it as a terrorist act? the fact of the matter is -- >> so the issue is the word terrorism wasn't used to the public satisfaction? >> one day it was vaguely described. the president saying that he referred to terror one day and then several days later the secretary or susan rice doesn't even refer to terrorism. she is talking about -- you can go right back to the video. the facts weren't clearly described from the beginning. >
the administration was given an assessment by the cia. susan rice went to the public and gave that to the public. when that information changed, the new information was given to the public. so i am not sure what they're looking for because i don't think there is anything beyond that. >> just to be clear, i'm not saying there's necessarily a conspiracy. what i'm saying is there was a lack of clarity. if the president was indeed clear that first day in saying that this was a terrorist act...
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that the fbi does crimes, not the cia. and so this is the proper course to take, and, look, again, transparency and accountability is what we most want in our leadership. look, this is tough, ed. you and i both know it. to a general who's done so much for this nation. but i'll tell you, ed, i think this shows what kind of a man he was that, yeah, he did his soul searching but handed in his resignation. that's what we're trained to do as good leaders. people should take a lesson from that. >> joe sestak, good to have you with us tonight on "the ed show." appreciate it so much. >> absolutely. >>> coming up, a coal boss announces a series of layoffs. he's blaming president obama's re-election. find out how workers are paying the price for a ceo's personal politics. >>> and it got pretty ugly out there following the re-election of our first african-american president. msnbc political analyst michael eric dyson will weigh in on the racist reactions around the country. >>> thanks for staying with us tonight. the leader of a comp
that the fbi does crimes, not the cia. and so this is the proper course to take, and, look, again, transparency and accountability is what we most want in our leadership. look, this is tough, ed. you and i both know it. to a general who's done so much for this nation. but i'll tell you, ed, i think this shows what kind of a man he was that, yeah, he did his soul searching but handed in his resignation. that's what we're trained to do as good leaders. people should take a lesson from that....
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he was not an insider from the cia and the cia is a bit of an old fashioned club. there was talk -- one person at the cia and one person formerly at the cia put it to me this way. the cia would have had to ask the fbi to look into e-mails that were suspicious. the cia handles its own security and the fbi would have had to be brought into examine somebody suspiciously trying to pry into the director's account which does not suggest a real warmth within the organization. >> this is an incredible resignation with incredible timing. i have a feeling as we get more detail it's going to become an even more important story. richard engel, thank you. i feel a feeling we'll be talking about this shortly. >>> who's in charge of the republican party now? simple question with a difficult answer. that's coming up. ♪ announcing the all-new 2013 malibu from chevrolet. ♪ with a remarkable new interior featuring the available chevrolet mylink infotainment system. this is where sophisticated styling begins. and where it ends? that's up to you. it's here -- the greatest malibu ev
he was not an insider from the cia and the cia is a bit of an old fashioned club. there was talk -- one person at the cia and one person formerly at the cia put it to me this way. the cia would have had to ask the fbi to look into e-mails that were suspicious. the cia handles its own security and the fbi would have had to be brought into examine somebody suspiciously trying to pry into the director's account which does not suggest a real warmth within the organization. >> this is an...
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beginning that that was the word from the cia. but the real, real problem confronting america is the way these guys are willing to slander the president and the administration by any means. we certainly didn't do that, the democrats i'm talking about, during the bush administration. when we had a different secretary of state colin powell, and he operated on what he said was the intelligence that he got. >> yeah. >> which was totally completely false, filled with lies, absolutely absurd when the truth was actually known and we didn't take advantage of it because we are all supposed to act like americans and patriots. these guys are anything but. what these guys have done is they're willing to sack their own quarterback in order to get themselves into the game. those are not team players. these guys are like people on wall street who go in and short a stock which means you go and bet against it. you bet that the stock is going to fall and the company's going to lose money and you cheer for that to happen. because you've made that pl
beginning that that was the word from the cia. but the real, real problem confronting america is the way these guys are willing to slander the president and the administration by any means. we certainly didn't do that, the democrats i'm talking about, during the bush administration. when we had a different secretary of state colin powell, and he operated on what he said was the intelligence that he got. >> yeah. >> which was totally completely false, filled with lies, absolutely...
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agents or 100 cia agents. the country was unsecure, the country was in the middle of a violent revolution. he had been in the area a long time. new exactly what a really bad situation looked like, could recognize it, and really had no business being there. so there was some complicity at the state department about that. there was no reason for him to be there. you couldn't generate the kinds of forces that you woot require to defend the place in short order given a rotten situation that was taking place. there's a lot of blame going around. you could argue that the cia should have known this was a really rotten situation and could have sent a lot more agents there. if i are were the director of the cia i would argue i have no business sending more agents down there at a time when what you needed was for the ambassador to get the heck out of there. >> thank you all. stay with us. much more ahead. >>> final for the your business entrepreneurs of the week. kathleen bailey and susan kad are encouraging customers t
agents or 100 cia agents. the country was unsecure, the country was in the middle of a violent revolution. he had been in the area a long time. new exactly what a really bad situation looked like, could recognize it, and really had no business being there. so there was some complicity at the state department about that. there was no reason for him to be there. you couldn't generate the kinds of forces that you woot require to defend the place in short order given a rotten situation that was...
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she was repeating what the cia had said was their best guess at that moment. it turns out to have been wrong. but to try to block her from being secretary of state simply for that was completely unsustainable and, you know, the meetings that are going to happen this week are the first step in her confirmation if the president does nominate her. i think that it would be very difficult for them to stop her. >> now, joe, they hammered ambassador rice. mccain hammered her but now he seems to be changing his tone. look at what he said then and look at what he is saying now. watch this. >> susan rice should have known better and if she didn't know better, she's not qualified. >> we will do whatever's necessary to block the nomination that's within our power as far as susan rice is concerned. if this select committee if appointed clears her of any wrongdoing, besides not being very bright because it was obvious that this was not a, quote, flash mob -- i think we give all nominees the benefit of the hearing process, et cetera. maybe she could start out by publicly com
she was repeating what the cia had said was their best guess at that moment. it turns out to have been wrong. but to try to block her from being secretary of state simply for that was completely unsustainable and, you know, the meetings that are going to happen this week are the first step in her confirmation if the president does nominate her. i think that it would be very difficult for them to stop her. >> now, joe, they hammered ambassador rice. mccain hammered her but now he seems to...
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he was not an insider from the cia. the cia is a bit of an old-fashioned club. they like it if you come up through the ranks. there was some talk that -- one person at the cia and one person formerly at the cia put it to me this way. the cia would have had to ask the fbi to look into e-mails that were suspicious. so the cia handles its own security. the fbi would have had to have been brought in to examine somebody suspiciously trying to pry into the director's account. which does not suggest a real warmth within the organization. >> this is an incredible resignation with incredible timing. i have a feeling as we get more detail as it goes forward, it could become an even more important story. richard engel, thank you. >>> who is in charge of the republican party now? simple question with a difficult answer. that's coming up and more. [ knock on door ] cool. you found it. wow. nice place. yeah. [ chuckles ] the family thinks i'm out shipping these. smooth move. you used priority mail flat rate boxes. if it fits, it ships for a low, flat rate. paid for postage on
he was not an insider from the cia. the cia is a bit of an old-fashioned club. they like it if you come up through the ranks. there was some talk that -- one person at the cia and one person formerly at the cia put it to me this way. the cia would have had to ask the fbi to look into e-mails that were suspicious. so the cia handles its own security. the fbi would have had to have been brought in to examine somebody suspiciously trying to pry into the director's account. which does not suggest a...
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andrea said he's expected to testify before the cia. this investigation with benghazi do you see any parallels, anything that might also have factored in with na resignation? >> well of course there's a link. i think at some juncture if he told the truth he would say he didn't have as much to do when on the ground what went on on the ground as people think. a large number the majority maybe all of the decision making was taken in the white house in the state department. he had nothing to do with it. that's a painful thing for him to say in testimony before the congress. >> all right. colonel jack jacobs thank you very much for joining us with this breaking news. a lot of developments. the president coming out and addressing the public for the first time since his re-election, discussing an invitation made to congressional leaders to meet at the white house to start in some kind of compromise to deal with the fiscal cliff looming reg
andrea said he's expected to testify before the cia. this investigation with benghazi do you see any parallels, anything that might also have factored in with na resignation? >> well of course there's a link. i think at some juncture if he told the truth he would say he didn't have as much to do when on the ground what went on on the ground as people think. a large number the majority maybe all of the decision making was taken in the white house in the state department. he had nothing to...
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. >>> former director of the cia, david petraeus david petraeus is fighting cabin fever after his downfall and considering offers of book deals and maybe even a spot on television. >>> it is the first real hurdle for a presidential candidate. who wants to end the iowa straw poll? none other than the republican governor. he says it's outdated and nominated congresswoman michele bachmann. >>> disciplining one of its editors after a story on president obama's trip to asia was altered. the word allegedly was added when referring to the present being born in hawaii. the newspaper calls it a poor attempt at humor never meant to be published. >>> finally, yesterday's turkey out look and the guru who accurately predicted his re-election. >> the winners of the white house turkey pardon were chosen through a highly competitive online vote. once again, nate silver completely nailed it. the guy's amazing. >> that is your morning dish of scrambled politics. >>> markets left on a high note before closing for the holiday. closed at 12,836 after gaining 48 points. the s&p was up three and the nasdaq added
. >>> former director of the cia, david petraeus david petraeus is fighting cabin fever after his downfall and considering offers of book deals and maybe even a spot on television. >>> it is the first real hurdle for a presidential candidate. who wants to end the iowa straw poll? none other than the republican governor. he says it's outdated and nominated congresswoman michele bachmann. >>> disciplining one of its editors after a story on president obama's trip to...
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you have a presidential election, you have the fbi and the cia kind of going at each other. you have an interagency dispute over the benghazi affair. let's not forget that two weeks ago, "the wall street journal" had a pretty damning article kind of pointing the finger at the cia for the benghazi debacle. a lot of people said then petraeus got thrown under the bus. i don't know if we're going to find out what the hell is going on here for weeks, months and even years. >> lindsey graham says petraeus better testify this week. his number two is now going to talk about the lead-up and what happened in terms of benghazi. but do you think he'll eventually have to testify? how much pressure do you think there is coming from capitol hill? >> i think there will be quite a bit of pressure. but it's not like his deputy isn't reading the same files that he is. i think they'll get just as informative a briefing from his deputy as you would from petraeus. but there will be pressure from capitol hill, definitely, going forward. we'll have to see what happens. hate to say it. there are a l
you have a presidential election, you have the fbi and the cia kind of going at each other. you have an interagency dispute over the benghazi affair. let's not forget that two weeks ago, "the wall street journal" had a pretty damning article kind of pointing the finger at the cia for the benghazi debacle. a lot of people said then petraeus got thrown under the bus. i don't know if we're going to find out what the hell is going on here for weeks, months and even years. >> lindsey...
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that the fbi does crimes, not the cia. and so this is the proper course to take, and, look, again, transparency and accountability is what we most want in our leadership. look, this is tough, ed. you and i both know it. to a general who's done so much for this nation. but i'll tell you, ed, i think this shows what kind of a man he was that, yeah, he did his soul searching but handed in his resignation. that's what we're trained to do as good leaders. people should take a lesson from that. >> joe sestak, good to have you with us tonight on "the ed show." appreciate it so much. >> absolutely. >>> coming up, a coal boss announces a series of layoffs. he's blaming president obama's re-election. find out how workers are paying the price for a ceo's personal politics. >>> and it got pretty ugly out there following the re-election of our first african-american president. msnbc political analyst michael eric dyson will weigh in on the racist reactions around the country. g to come back from rough economic times. employees are bein
that the fbi does crimes, not the cia. and so this is the proper course to take, and, look, again, transparency and accountability is what we most want in our leadership. look, this is tough, ed. you and i both know it. to a general who's done so much for this nation. but i'll tell you, ed, i think this shows what kind of a man he was that, yeah, he did his soul searching but handed in his resignation. that's what we're trained to do as good leaders. people should take a lesson from that....
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be that at the state department, the cia. >> there are two issues here. one is the physical security of the consulate itself. based on all of the intelligence that we knew, all of that information, said clearly there was a high degree of threat. i believe that there was a catastrophic failure in recognizing that threat posture clearly on that date. that's a separate issue than the intelligence issue. we had clearly the intelligence was right. clearly, others had made decisions based on that threat, including other nations, had pulled out of benghazi. we knew all of that was going on through the investigation. but the state department for whatever reason didn't make the adjustments. i argue, and i think the senator would argue, would have been prudent to protect the lives. that's one issue. but the second issue is the narrative created following it did not match the intelligence. and did the policy decisions that happened afterward cause problems for the united states? i argue it has, and we have agreed together that we'll get to the bottom of how that hap
be that at the state department, the cia. >> there are two issues here. one is the physical security of the consulate itself. based on all of the intelligence that we knew, all of that information, said clearly there was a high degree of threat. i believe that there was a catastrophic failure in recognizing that threat posture clearly on that date. that's a separate issue than the intelligence issue. we had clearly the intelligence was right. clearly, others had made decisions based on...
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all that while embattled former cia director david petraeus prepares to testify on capitol hill today. and breaking news from the middle east. as rockets are fired between the israelis and palestinians, this morning three israelis are killed. we'll have a live report coming up. first, good morning, everyone. i'm lynn berry. today, one scandal will give way to another in washington. david petraeus expected to testify in a closed door senate intelligence committee hearing. general petraeus is not expected to talk about his personal indiscretions that ended his cia career last week. instead, he'll be discussing details in the deadly attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi, libya that resulted in the death of christopher stevens and three others. >>> also, the controversy over u.n. ambassador susan rice calling the assault spontaneous in september reached a boiling point. yesterday president obama and his first news conference since re-election exploded at republicans finger pointing over rice. >> if senator mccain and senator graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go a
all that while embattled former cia director david petraeus prepares to testify on capitol hill today. and breaking news from the middle east. as rockets are fired between the israelis and palestinians, this morning three israelis are killed. we'll have a live report coming up. first, good morning, everyone. i'm lynn berry. today, one scandal will give way to another in washington. david petraeus expected to testify in a closed door senate intelligence committee hearing. general petraeus is not...
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. >>> opening up behind closed doors, a week after resigning as head of the cia over an extramarital affair david petraeus heads to both sides of capitol hill this morning for hearings on what happened in the leadup and aftermath of the september attack that killed four americans in libya. >>> meanwhile, at the other end of pennsylvania avenue, president obama gets ready to sit down with congressional leaders from both parties to try to figure out the fiscal cliff. is speaker boehner ready to make a deal anytime soon? >>> plus, major news for big business. the justice department hits bp with the biggest criminal penalty ever assessed on a corporation for the 2010 gulf oil spill. >>> and so much for the ideas that twinkies last forever. bankruptcy breaks a big-time baker. >>> good morning from washington. it's friday, november 16, 2012. this is "the daily rundown." i'm luke russert in for chuck todd who hasn't worked hard enough at all this entire election campaign, he's now going to asia to cover the president's trip. former cia director david petraeus will testify in the benghazi at
. >>> opening up behind closed doors, a week after resigning as head of the cia over an extramarital affair david petraeus heads to both sides of capitol hill this morning for hearings on what happened in the leadup and aftermath of the september attack that killed four americans in libya. >>> meanwhile, at the other end of pennsylvania avenue, president obama gets ready to sit down with congressional leaders from both parties to try to figure out the fiscal cliff. is speaker...
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he was not an insider from the cia and the cia is a bit of an old fashioned club. they like it if you come up through the ranks. there was talk -- one person at the cia and one person formerly at the cia put it to me this way. the cia would have had to ask the fbi to look into e-mails that were suspicious. the cia handles its own security and the fbi would have had to be brought in to examine somebody suspiciously trying to pry into the director's account. which does not suggest a real warmth within the organization. >> this is an incredible resignation with incredible timing. i have a feeling as we get more detail on this as it goes forward it's going to become an even more important story. richard engel, nbc's chief foreign correspondent. thank you. richard engel, thank you. i feel a feeling we'll be talking about this shortly. >>> who's in charge of the republican party now? simple question with a difficult answer. that's coming up. were! [ husband ] transfer! [ male announcer ] free data transfer at home. you just deleted all the photos! you did! no you did! [
he was not an insider from the cia and the cia is a bit of an old fashioned club. they like it if you come up through the ranks. there was talk -- one person at the cia and one person formerly at the cia put it to me this way. the cia would have had to ask the fbi to look into e-mails that were suspicious. the cia handles its own security and the fbi would have had to be brought in to examine somebody suspiciously trying to pry into the director's account. which does not suggest a real warmth...
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he didn't want on record that cia intelligence was bad and that was the reason. so that "wall street journal" report we saw yesterday talking about petraeus in his final days at the cia really wanting to come out and talk publicly. we have a greater sense of why that was. of all the agencies and departments that have their hands in the libya affair, cia, dod, state, white house, fbi, i think it's clear that the cia's jurisdiction in a lot of what happened was probably minimal. that makes petraeus's downfall all the more sad, because i think of everyone the cia and david petraeus probably had the cleanest hands in all of this. we have to see. we obviously have plenty more questions going forward. >> to your point, s.e., it shows his resignation was over the extra-marital affair. >> yeah. >> i want to take a step back here on this whole issue. i mean, i think -- let me start by saying that i think the questions about the security at the consulate in benghazi are legitimate questions that deserve investigation. the thing that republicans have really glomed onto is w
he didn't want on record that cia intelligence was bad and that was the reason. so that "wall street journal" report we saw yesterday talking about petraeus in his final days at the cia really wanting to come out and talk publicly. we have a greater sense of why that was. of all the agencies and departments that have their hands in the libya affair, cia, dod, state, white house, fbi, i think it's clear that the cia's jurisdiction in a lot of what happened was probably minimal. that...
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military and the cia director himself. and that's what triggered delivering the e-mail, bringing the e-mails to the fbi and triggered concern by the fbi as well to open up the investigation. >> layer by layer, we continue to learn more. thank you, i appreciate it. >> thank you. just a short time ago president obama arrived in new york. he is expected to meet with family officials and first responders, all still trying to recover from hurricane sandy. the storm left millions without powers. some of the hardest hit areas on new york's long island. the congressman joins me now. congressman, it's good to have you with me this morning. let's ask about your area, neighbors there. how are they doing recovering from sandy and in your estimation has the federal government done enough to help in the last few weeks? >> well, this recovery will be long, it will be slow and difficult. it has been the way since the storm struck the last two weeks ago. we have small businesses trying to recover that lost business, our economy took a hit.
military and the cia director himself. and that's what triggered delivering the e-mail, bringing the e-mails to the fbi and triggered concern by the fbi as well to open up the investigation. >> layer by layer, we continue to learn more. thank you, i appreciate it. >> thank you. just a short time ago president obama arrived in new york. he is expected to meet with family officials and first responders, all still trying to recover from hurricane sandy. the storm left millions without...
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the former top spy being investigated by the agency that he once directed which, of course, is the cia. officials say the investigation by the cia inspector general surrounds whether petraeus used agency resources to advance his relationship with paula broadwell. speaking out about the scandal for the first time yesterday, attorney general eric holder defended the justice department's decision not to inform the president or members of congress sooner. >> we follow the facts. we do not share outside the justice department, outside the fbi the facts of ongoing investigations. we made the determination as we were going through the matter that there was not a threat to national security. had we made the determination that a threat to national security existed, we would, of course, have made that known to the president and also to the appropriate members on the hill. >> now, with a pair of four-star generals being investigated, defense secretary leon panetta ordering a review of all military ethical standards, meanwhile, the fbi agent who helped trigger the initial investigation explaining
the former top spy being investigated by the agency that he once directed which, of course, is the cia. officials say the investigation by the cia inspector general surrounds whether petraeus used agency resources to advance his relationship with paula broadwell. speaking out about the scandal for the first time yesterday, attorney general eric holder defended the justice department's decision not to inform the president or members of congress sooner. >> we follow the facts. we do not...
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new information surfaces on what forced the head of the cia to resign abruptly. the latest on the investigation ahead. >>> cliff dwellers. commentses on mr. lawmakers will be able to steer the u.s. away from fiscal catastrophe. >>> in office politics. eugene robinson on one thing that did not factor into tuesday's election. between day, everyone. welcome to weekends with alex whitt. we begin with new details on what precipitated the end of the storied military career. we now know what started an fbi investigation that ended in general petraeus' abrupt resignation. it all started with complaints to the fbi about harassing e-mails sent from this woman, paula broadwell, to the another unnamed woman. petraeus was not the focus of investigators, but that led them to other e-mails between petraeus and broadwell which officials tell nbc news were indicative of an extramarital affair. the general admitted to an extramarital affair in his resignation letter. meanwhile we're now hearing from petraeus' former spokesperson. he talked to kristen welker. she's in washington wi
new information surfaces on what forced the head of the cia to resign abruptly. the latest on the investigation ahead. >>> cliff dwellers. commentses on mr. lawmakers will be able to steer the u.s. away from fiscal catastrophe. >>> in office politics. eugene robinson on one thing that did not factor into tuesday's election. between day, everyone. welcome to weekends with alex whitt. we begin with new details on what precipitated the end of the storied military career. we now...